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Battle Axes and Other Weapons of Mass Destruction

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No, this isn’t THE Miz Patricia Hagemann of Pay Pal Money Changer Fame,

but her personality is the same.

You see, Ole Mama Repento, a few years ago, back when she was the brains of their PalTalk room, as opposed to Larry Jordan, (who wasn’t), would bitch and complain about her dysfunctional marriage. I mean, to God and everybody who would listen. Those who heard her must have felt very sorry and embarressed for her poor beleagured husband.

Nowadays, on her Watchman on the Wall “Show”, and website, she claims to be happily married, and the proud mother of lovely sons. You remember…those ‘charming’ uh, sons of, and chips off the old block..

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who place Satanic curses on blogs to take them down for calling out the Mob Boss, Miz Patricia.

Now the Ole Mob Boss Patricia, and Larry, the now embattled “Watchdog”,

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had gotten along pretty well in those days, until they began having some ‘ministry’ problems, and couldn’t stand the heat. That’s when Larry turned on the Mob Boss and began exposing some of her false prophecies; https://watchingthewatchmenonthewall.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/another-bro-larry-jordan-miss-patricia-hageman-extravaganza/

“Comment from Lawrence Jordon:
September 23, 2012
Patricia Price Philibert Hagemann AGREED PROPHETS HAVE TO BE 100% COME TO PASS ,

CAN YOU PATRICIA PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME AT LEAST 4 FAILED COMPLETELY FALSE PROPHECIES YOU SPOKE OVER ME AS A EX CO HOST YOU SAID,

1.)THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD IS GONNA GIVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS ,

2) THUS SAITH THE LORD LAWRENCE GOD IS GONNA GIVE YOU THAT BIG HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET,

3) THUS SAITH THE LORD BRO LAWRENCE ME AND MY FAMILY THE HAGEMANNS ARE GONNA MOVE INTO THAT HOUSE HERE IN ARIZONA WITH YOU BRO LAWRENCE!

Patricia Price Philibert Hagemann NONE OF THESE HAPPENED AT ALL SO ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN TEACHING ON THIS SHOW YOU ARE A FALSE PROPHETESS , PROPHESYING BY DIVINATION , YOUR OWN DECEIVED HEART , VAIN IMAGINATION OF THIS VERY RADIO SHOW AND THE WORST ONE

4) YOUR RECORDED PROPHECIES PREDICTIONS YOU SAID – THUS SAITH THE LORD OF TBN PREACHERS WILL BE FALLING OVER DEAD IN 2012 WATCH AND SEE RADIO LISTENERS!

WHICH YOU SPOKE MANY MONTHS AGO THIS SAITH THE LORD AND YET NOT ONE SINGLE TBN FALSE PROPHET HAS FELL BACK DEAD ITS NOW SEPT 2012?

ITS RECORDED ON YOUR SHOW I WAS WITH YOU ON AS CO -HOST ON W.O.W RADIO? PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR PROPHECIES FAILED TO THE BODY OF CHRIST THE ELDERS AND WATCHMEN’S OF THE BODY OF CHRIST PLEASE ,!”

The upshot of the story, is that for the sake of the business, (WOW Productions and Pay Pal Money Scams), they decided to patch up their differences, and get back to work, raking in donations, bilking and extorting their gullible followers, and being the general hateful heretics and false teachers they are.

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Larry is happy once again,  that he can do what he does best, listen to his Online Radio tapes 24/7, and post slander blog crap against their enemies all over Facebook,  pretend he is a great ‘Watchman’

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like his imaginary friend….and be an obnoxious pest, etc. He is the mouthpiece for the Mob Boss, Patricia,

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while she still functions as the brains of the operation.  She directs her devil kids, (at least one of them), Omen

to make new photoshopped pics which she uses to plant fake evidence to blame on her and Larry’s enemies.  They aren’t ‘innocent’ babies anymore..

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They are grown men, but still under the Mob Bosses orders. We don’t know much about how the Mob Bosses hubby fits in…he sort of stays in the background.

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But the Mob Boss and Larry have made a new friend, and hood ornament for their calling card which they think will bolster their dubious reputations in their ongoing attempt at status building.

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This is strange because ironically, he was once their sworn enemy. Can the Mob Boss and Larry trust him? This is a risk and still unknown as he has been known to flip flop.

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So, time will tell if there will continue to be ‘honor among thieves”. 

We know that the Mob Boss and her mouthpiece, Larry, will continue to attempt to keep their racketeering enterprise limping along, as long as there is even a dollar in extortion money coming in. Larry will continue to do what he loves to do best, grabbing that mic and taking preemenance, (the Absolam spirit),  making himself out to be someone of more importance than the dumb sheep he imagines himself to be overlord of;

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Maybe some of these poor deluded sheep will continue to blindly follow after these two spiritual thugs, but there are still some that have eyes that see and ears that hear who realize how wicked and dangerous they are. How sad for the blinded sheep, the Mob Boss and her foolish mouthpiece, Larry to go down the toilet rejoicing in iniquity by their own choices, all for a bunch of …

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Sad, very sad indeed. We wonder how different this is than selling out for a mess of pottage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Preaching is a Calling, Not a Business

The Lord Jesus Christ chases the Money Changers Out of the Temple

Preaching and teaching is a calling, not a business.

Larry Jordan and Patricia Hagemann do a lot of that…..so-called teaching and preaching. They like to call themselves “watchmen”, but if you pay close attention you will notice that what they “teach and preach” has little if anything to do with leading people into a deeper relationship, sanctification, consecration, and  knowledge of the Most High God, and His precious Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Mostly what they LOVE to preach and teach about is condemnation of  false ministries. The same thing a lot of other so called “discernment ministries” talk about.  Can’t todays modern geneneration of computer literate folks find their way to websites with scriptures and teachings about these issues themselves…..and free of charge? There is no love for either people…or God,with these two hirelings. They  preach what they love best….condemnation against other “evil” doers. Never, never about their own evil doing and  hypocricy.

Oh sure, they say they love you. Lip service put out for their own self interest and for promoting themselves in false love to the brethren. Look, anyone can get on the Internet, Facebook, YouTube, and BlogTalk Radio and put on a “SHOW”,  but the real work is down in the trenches among the poor, the outcasts, the widows and orphans, the disenfranchized. To be broken bread and poured out wine.

There is no passion or pleading with prayer or heartfelt crying out to the Lord for the hearts, souls and deliverance of the people or drawing them to the Father with these two self proclaimed “Watchmen”.

There’s coming a time not too long from now, when Lord Jesus is going to remove the Money Changers in todays Christendom once and for all.

All that said, let me remind you; preaching is a calling, not a business. And…also, though some ‘preach’against organized religion and apostasy; people who come out of apostate churches can be just as apostate as some of those still inside apostate churches. Possibly even more so, since all restraint and accountability has been abandoned.

When you see that little PayPal donate button, what you are seeing is the mark and evidence of a hireling, no matter how you shake it!

What is a hireling? Someone hoping to make gain from you- to themselves.

This my friends is what a harlot, a prostitute does.

Small wonder Lord Jesus warned us about these types in His Word, of those who would make godiness is gain.

And….the very reason this blog exists is to begin exposing the way these false brethren. Larry Jordan and Patricia Hagemann have slowly and methodically, insinutated  themselves into the Internet, YouTube,FaceBook, FaithBook, BlogTalkRadio and elsewhere, corrupting and distorting the pure gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, and deceiving his children. Better a millstone would be hung around their neck and cast into the sea, rather than to have hurt one of His little ones. They will be held accountable, whether on this blog, or at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

 

 

Proof: Larry Jordan’s Violent-Unstable Nature

The video of Manny’s account of Larry Jordan’s physical and verbal attack he endured even though Manny was trying to avoid a confrontation has been removed, apparently at the request of Larry Jordan, (not the party who uploaded the original video). Nothing like trying to cover your tracks Larry. 

This is a testimonial of Larry Jordan’s violent and psychotic behavior and his obsession with the Clarks; Dan and Sharlene. The following testimonies reveal that Larry Jordan is so out of control he has gone so far as  to physically and verbally attacking someone who merely happens to be a friend of theirs. 

This is beyond the pale of any normal human being, let alone someone proclaiming to be a “minister of the gospel”. Instead, by his psychotic and violent nature, he appears to be extremely delusional and taken over and controlled by an extreme “religious spirit”.

When someone claiming to be a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ is running a public online ministry, and especially when that party is asking for donations from the public, it might be a wise idea to know something about that individual. If you’ve never met the person, how do you know for sure they are honest, truthful and humble servants of the Lord Jesus? In Larry Jordan’s case, you don’t. The ones who know him best are his own neighbors in Strawberry, AZ. 

In researching this crazy nutcase, I found he has been obsessed with this couple at least as far back as 2010, as can be cooberated by googling in their names on a search engine, and then adding cult, which he claims against them, and has made extremely long rants. 

Also, he has tracked them over onto Watchman’s Cry, and made derogatory posts…where he has now been banned.

He seems to be especially obsessed with Sharlene, who finally resorted to giving an account of the double life Larry lives there in Strawberry, AZ;

Testimonies of Manny, Ben , M#####, and others
 Attacks from L Jordan Stefanski

Our very long time friend and brother in the Lord of Agape Harvest Church. These are his accounts of numerous times of a physically attack, with photos of wounds on Manny’s arms, and along with many accounts of persistent stalking from Lawrence (Larry) Jordan. These are both written and audio testimonies.

Lawrence Jordan says in last years phone calls (we have recorded on an mp3 files) said that he came onto our porch either when we were gone or at night after we went to bed and stated he was praying for us…uhhh think he got his words mixed up he really is preying..a predator…then on the newest phone calls he admits he’s been out at night….again saying he was praying….So all the reports about him being seen out in the night are true by Lawrence’s very own words in several phone calls

Manny, Steve & Evard came by on Wed and we had a nice visit outside….we sat at the patio table. When Steve drove Manny back to the house they caught him riding his bike in circles up on Fossil Creek Rd…by our home….the spy is again spying…trying to eavesdrop!….we can’t see anything due to the canopy over us and its right next to the shed..so we didn’t see him…how Lawrence knew they were here…they 1st drove to Manny’s home to drop off a load of fire wood…Lawrence  saw them and then rode his bike to our place and saw both Evard’s & Steve’s trunk parked at the gate.

Last night around 8 pm (dust) Larry was caught by Manny spying on us once again. Manny was on his way to the market and passed Larry walking towards our home…just a short few steps from being right at our home. When Larry saw Manny he stopped and Lawrence froze and then turned around and didn’t move. Manny then turned into our place and was telling us what just happened….Dan looks up and now Larry is  standing in front of our street/home and staring at Dan sitting on our porch, Larry stood there for about 30 seconds and then turned around and headed back to his place. Larry’s been caught numerous times stalking, spying on many neighbors in our area….we and others that have seen him with binoculars peering into homes in the dark of the night even in the early morning hours he’s out walking and looking into homes of those we fellowship with.

Lawrence Jordan Stefanski is not at all in person the facade and persona he puts on the internet.
Please listen to his neighbor who lives in Strawberry Arizona of what he really like in person.
We will be giving testimony of who this man really is so you can judge for your self if he truly sounds like someone who deserves your ministry dollars. Especially for bibles which are free. Patricia Hageman has never been in person with Lawrence Jordan Stefanski. She like everyone else only knows him through the internet. (Note: apparently, since this was written, Larry & Patricia have met in person and continue with their “ministry”).

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~Personal testimony of Physical attack of Manny now please consider a true man of God would seek forgiveness and also make restitution and also reconciliation. It is our prayer that Lawrence would consider all of this and if he fits the requirements listed in the word of God to be someone in ministry. Also for him to remember 1 Corinthians 6.

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Larry has mental issue and is a very bitter man who for some reason HATES women. I don’t know why. We MUST as per the Bible, forgive him and pray for him. Jesus went through MUCH more…so by comparison…THIS IS NOTHING!! LOL!!! I didn’t hear about D****** attacks. The man is obviously miserable….it’s soooo sad. Thank You for sharing sister and God Bless
I have been having problems with Larry Jordan for some time. I have done my best to ignore him and now that many others are starting to voice their concerns about him we want to take action against him. He is cyber stalking and bullying many people online. He has committed online crimes against two website by continuing to harass, flood and threaten their owners. R*****

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Testimony of Ben Pratt
 My name is Ben Pratt this is my testimony of my experiences with Lawrence Jordan. I used to live around the corner from him and this man deliberately would try to intimidate me.  I am a big man and weigh 220 lbs and Lawrence would stand in front of me with his face up to mine screaming and yelling. He would rant and raves like a lunatic spewing swearing and legalistic Christian rhetoric.
He was attacking me and trying to get me to fight him or physically hurt him. I allowed him to verbally abuse me and did not hurt him even though I was well able too.   Neighbors witness Lawrence doing this to me and will confirm this happened.
About 2 years ago when Lawrence was at the height of attacking me and was the only man in Strawberry Arizona that I was having problems with I started being sabotaged by him. I do not have direct proof because it was calculated attacks.
I would have things like someone put water in my lawnmower and blew the motor out. I was running a Landscaping business at the time.
I went to borrow Scott’s truck and was driving down the mountain on the highway when all the sudden the top flew off and almost caused a serious accident. Someone had sabotaged the bolts.
There was also a lot of other things which caused me to stay awake at night trying to catch whoever was doing this.
It severely stressed me out and felt like I was being provoked.
Now again the only person I was having problems at the time was Lawrence Jordan Stefanski.
I often would try to invite M##### C###### over and witnessed and saw how he was being abused by Lawrence Jordan. (Note: this was speaking of Larry’s disabled homosexual now ex-lover of 15 years).
I could not figure out why M#### would not come over and have since heard Lawrence would choke him and threaten him. I would be more than willing to give a police statement that this was going on.
There are many other people who have had run INS with Lawrence Jordan and he is not at all who he portrays himself to be in his Ministry. There are many witnesses of his rages and also his bizarre behavior.
He has had run ins with all of his trailer park neighbors. He is extremely verbally abusive and has sworn  at and attacked people. People are afraid to go around him because he is so abusive. I  have personally witnessed this.
Signed
Ben Pratt

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Testimony of M######

When I first heard this precious mans voice I was struck with how fragile and amazing he was.

 How very brave….M##### C######## a very sweet, fragile man who has a chronic disability.

It broke my heart that he had been so abused by Lawrence Jordan Stefanski.

“Larry Jordan was my gay lover for 15 years” he said.

“And not only that he the most abusive person I have ever met”.

What happened next was an account of all of the physical, mental and emotional abuse that Lawrence

Jordan inflicted on this poor man.

He has choked him, bloodied his face and kicked him so hard between the legs he had to have stitches.

He physically abused him so badly that one day he kicked him out of the trailer and would not let him

Have his cane or his respirator ( nebulizer) machine for breathing. Copd, Osteoarthritis  and a severe back injury.

This abuse can be verified by his neighbors who saw him weeping and crying outside of the trailer in Strawberry Arizona.

“He hurt me so badly I tried to kill myself” he admitted with such a sad and broken heart that it deeply grieved my spirit. “I overdosed on  morphine and vodka.”  “It was the grace of God that saved me”.

“The ministry he runs is a scam” M##### said “Larry did it just for the money”. He also cons young women trying to delude them into thinking they are special and he is hungry and needs money. This man has lots of food he just lies. He gets food stamps every month besides the money from his ministry.

He is nothing in real life as to who he portrays himself to be in his radio shows and on Face book and the internet.

*After M left Larry and went back home to Oregon…

“He,(Larry)phones me all the time and I have his abusive threats recorded for the police. Today he called 12 times threatening me.

When my baby sister died on the operating table (she needed a liver transplant) Lawrence told me she was in hell. He would scream at me like he was deluded.

I think he is schizophrenic there is something terribly wrong with him. I witness him screaming at people just for walking by the trailer and he would call women F#####g B#####s. He does it when  he is driving.

 

He would call them snakes and Jezebels. He is very deluded and sick. I think he needs to go to Jail and it is time this story came out. I will do whatever it takes and if I remember more I will talk about it.

I have evidence from the hospital where I had to get stitches from where he abused me.”

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Testimony from Elder:

Testimony of an Elder of Agape Harvest Church, Attacked by Lawrence Jordan
My pastor and I decided to go for a walk, so we headed down Fossil Creek Rd, going west. We have several brothers that lived down in that direction. We got to the area of a trailer park, about quarter mile from my Pastors home, when a man that had just moved from Bend, Oregon and now is living in Strawberry, Arizona in a trailer park off Fossil Creek Rd. He came here, uh, let me use his own words, “to checkout our fellowship.” He didn’t last long, he had problems getting alone, plus he was very restless and seemed to be always in a state of agitation, explosive personality, we never knew what would set him off.

Well, getting back to our walk. He comes busting out of his trailer when he saw us coming down the road. We’re still about 2 blocks from his trailer pad.  He begins to yell out, in a very loud voice, obscenities, calling us fake Christians, whores, deceivers, and many other names. I was shocked, even though my Pastor warned me, that is might happen if he was home. You see, I actually live about 2 hrs away, and come on the weekends for fellowship. I knew of the problems my Pastor and his wife were having with this man. I never expected to witnesses something like this, although best described as a scene right out of the bible of the Gadarene demonic.

We ignored the man, but at the same time I felt so embarrassed for him. He had stirred-up the whole area. People were coming out of their homes wondering what was going on. After a while he went back into his trailer and then we could hear him throwing things. Sounded like pot and pans banging against the walls as he was throwing them. I looked at my pastor, and I said is this what he does, attacks anyone associated with our fellowship? My Pastor said, yes we’re used to it. What can you do, but try and stay out of his way, and not give him any attention.

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Testimony of Sharlene Clark of getting attacked while going for a walk

For the record…..December 17th 2012
I was verbally assaulted with malice as the malefactor (man) came charging at me into the street as I walked along Fossil Creek Rd as I do every afternoon at 3:00 pm since November 5th 2012. This is the first time the local troublemaker noticed me taking my daily walks and the anger and violence came spewing out loudly from his foul mouth and with intent to harm as he came charging from my left side as I walked by….he was stopped by a passing truck and I kept walking and made a right at Dan’s Highway and could still hear the assailant verbally calling out nasty names as I continued my walk….at this point I was at least half a mile from the this demonically driven man, that is how loud he was shouting. I said nothing, or looked in his direction… At the time of passing by this wicked man I kept walking as if it was a barking dog nipping at my heels looking for attention….to which under no circumstances would he ever get any kind of response from me….except quietly saying bless you mister (Larry Jordan)& may God’s mercy triumph over such evil.
Agape Harvest Church

Christians are to be accountable for who they follow and support. When they follow, and link to, friend, etc; they are condoning and putting themselves in agreement with that person or ministry. This is a very serious matter and should not be taken lightly. We are to have no agreement with the unfruitful works of darkness. Period! 

That said, we do not know much about Patricia Hageman’s personal life except what she posts online as well as the attacks she’s made against individuals, Christians, that have had run in’s with her. Most importantly, her continued association with Larry Jordan, and her apparent collusion and agreement with him.

We are known by our friends….and also what the Lord Jesus said, “You shall know them by their deeds”. 

People can say many things that others will take at face value and believe it as truth and fact, when in reality it is a total subterfuge and deception. How many times must the Body of Christ be warned in scripture to beware of false teachers and evil workers who are enemies of the Cross of Christ? I wonder. What must it take to wake Christians up to people like Larry Jordan and Patricia Hageman, as well as so many other spiritual charlatans out there online taking advantage, lying to, and attacking others for their own deceptive purposes. Look at what they do, not just what they say on their “Show”.

I personally have no dog in this fight, except to expose and publicly rebuke these two deceivers, which should be any Christians reasonable service.  

They are welcome to come here and take me on, with the exception that I will not allow them to use this blog as another platform to attack people. It’s time consuming and boring, but I will do it just to let them know I for one, will not be intimidated.  But even then, there will be bounderies, as I will not allow them to badger me, as they have done to the Clarks and others for years on end.

I have no “personal beef” with either one of them. They need not think they are so special that they are the only false teachers I’ve come against and called out. This is just  what I do, as a spiritual warrior.